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The psychology of Henry VIII

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A range of Tudor historians discuss the psychlogy of Henry VIII: insecure, tyrannical, generous, egotistical, cultured, sporting ?
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nista (1 year ago)
Henry killed almost everyone he loved.
13Gladius 2 (1 year ago)
That Thomas Cromwell was a historically important figure is beyond doubt; that he should serve as the sympathetic hero of a novel is more surprising. There was nothing remotely glamorous or romantic in his person. Even the painter Hans Holbein could not pretend that he was handsome. In Holbein’s great portraits Thomas More fairly glows with a deep thoughtfulness; Erasmus focuses his quicksilver wit and ironic intelligence on the quill pen poised above the sheet of paper; but jowly Cromwell, his mouth set in a hard scowl, clutches a piece of paper like a dagger and looks out at the world through wary, piggish eyes.
13Gladius 2 (1 year ago)
if a women doesn't doesn't give u a son try another n another 'til u get one or two or more bcz as even every idiot knows only a man can b king!!
May Mufeez (1 year ago)
Henry the 8th was almost a typical cancerian
May Mufeez (1 year ago)
+matgrat79 he was hehe
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VC YT (1 year ago)
I feel sorry for henry as he never got he wanted - an he was meant to be KING !
Sara MP (2 years ago)
Yes, idiot, kill your Wife because she had a daughter
Sara MP (1 year ago)
I know it wasn't ''good enough''!! That's the problem.
VC YT (1 year ago)
+Sara MP -A daughter wasn't good enough in the old days - its was the 1500s !
Michael Ahern (2 years ago)
If he had been a football fan his team would have been millwall 😅
M J (2 years ago)
He was a serial killer.
snoozester joe (2 years ago)
Turn up the volume..............
snoozester joe (2 years ago)
+Lee Sargeant I'd really like to listen, but I hate straining my ears to listen to something.It's annoying.God bless/
Lee Sargeant (2 years ago)
+snoozester joe sadly they didn't do it yet.
lisa miller (2 years ago)
To sum it all up, he was a big time narcissistic sociopath who had to have everything his way....
Jerry Perry (2 years ago)
Everybody has a dark side. That's why dictatorship has never been a good idea. Most people also have a conscience but the longer you stay in power the more you forget about that.
Jerry Perry (2 years ago)
+Anne Boleyn Henry VIII was a Machiavellian ruler. He wasn't the only one in his time. http://www.heartcom.org/MachMatrix.htm
Anne Boleyn (2 years ago)
+Jerry Perry My dark side has never let me set someone up for execution on false charges of adultery, or indeed set anyone up for anything they hadn't done.
glammie4 (3 years ago)
He was a madman. The people he should have trusted he killed. Sorry having Royal blood does not bring you closer to God.
Christine O'hara (30 days ago)
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Anne Boleyn (2 years ago)
+elaine31347 Apparently this was vastly exaggerated. He never even lost consciousness and was only temporarily winded.
Anne Boleyn (2 years ago)
+Josi One of the first things he did as a "moderate" young king was have his fathers tax collectors - Empson and Dudley - executed for their pernicious form of greed and tax collecting. But they had only done what they were ordered to do by the greedy miserly Henry VII. Executing them for the sake of popularity is not moderate.
Jerry Perry (2 years ago)
+glammie4 There is no royal blood. There is no God. Only big egos.
Melissa Van der Stock (4 years ago)
Yes, looking at your reaction I can see how you are a more academic reliable source. They aren't absolving him, they are explaining why he thought the way he thought. No man is history is purposely evil or malicious, there's always a way of thinking, a reason behind it.
the face (4 years ago)
he was a woman hater, pig a murder a piece of shit he was a lunatic a robber and the devil him self what they are talk here is all LIES and FALSE .
Alexa Craig (8 months ago)
oh my gosh you MUST tell me what it's like being a time traveler!
Kim Lowe (4 years ago)
I have to agree that Henry VIII was insecure.. at the times of the Tudors, I can understand why. On the other hand, he may have been narccissitic. Modern psychology, he may have suffered from the Odipus complex.
Theturtleowl (4 years ago)
When I saw the title I just went: Not too well
Knight192 (5 years ago)
WHILE i appreciate her presents amongst you're experts on the passed i wonder who's idea it wasith and if you would apprise them of my appraisal if it doesn't open a box of pandoras
chookfeather (5 years ago)
WTF? Henry's wives didn't give him any healthy children? That is absolutely a false statement. His daughters Mary and Elizabeth were all healthy, and although he died young his son Edward was healthy. Edwards health failed in his late teens before he died, probably from TB. He most certainly DID blame Catherine and Anne for not producing a male heir. Catherine was divorced and exhiled, Anne was executed on trumped up treason charges and.Katherine Howard was executed for adultery
paul pentony (5 years ago)
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tropicsgoddess (5 years ago)
They (The Plantagenets) definitely did. But Henry VIII wasn't the only one that did what he could to keep himself in power. The Tudors had a weaker claim to the throne and Henry VII did his part in taking them out and Yorkists to keep his throne. But in Henry VIII's case it was also out of revenge from the scathing paper Cardinal Reginald Pole wrote about his religious policies (and because Henry VIII couldn't touch him due to his exile). He even tried (and failed) with having Pole assassinated.
Billi Jo Maynard (5 years ago)
Whateverman181 It seems to me that you know nothing about Henry VIII or any king of England for that matter. King John Plantagenet was far worse then Henry. Comparing Henry to Adolf Hitler shows that you are not only ignorant and disrespectful but it shows how stupid you are. BTW Henry's sister Margaret is my 16th maternal Grandmother. He is my blood SO BACK OFF!!
patukott (5 years ago)
Makes one wonder, what these historians would make of the theory that, in addition to the injured leg, Henry got a brain damage that influenced his behaviour in its turn.
MSE. Dzirasa (5 years ago)
The Plantagenets had a lawful claim to the throne...Henry beheaded the last of them...!!! All his characteristics are resonate to those of a first rate NARCISSIST.!!!
3636Clarence (5 years ago)
Unfortunately, like so many posting threads, this one has veered away from the topic. The video is about Henry VIII. Somehow it spun around to religions , who got married when, etc.etc.
eurasianchica (5 years ago)
Do you have any credible research to back up those claims? Oh and by the way, Mohammed did marry Aisha when she was 6. Do you even read the hadith? Sahih Bukhari Vol7 Book 62 # 64 Narrated Aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).
eurasianchica (5 years ago)
And yet Islam says that a woman's testimonial is worth half of a man's, that men are allowed to beat their wives, and that it is fine to marry a 6 year old girl and have sex with her when she is 9.
luvifynavi (5 years ago)
aren't u the most most funniest person her? first thing is that am not a christian but i just need to defend christianity and henry here.....henry didn't kill ALL his wives (only 2 and it was kind of necessary in those times considering the things his wives have done,even though i love anne boleyn).....he blamed them not coz they didn't produce male children but coz they didn't give him ANY healthy children at all and QURAN is not superior to anything nor is bible...no religious preeching here
NewDawnFades608 (5 years ago)
No, it does not prove anything. It's not like getting kissed can get you pregnant, and that doesn't prove that it's the male's genes that *directly influence* the sex of the child. I agree with barbhorses, that only says that to produce a child, you need sperm. It doesn't take a genius to figure that one out. Nice try, though.
barbhorses (5 years ago)
And in Proverbs it speaks about Jesus Christ(when he was still in Heaven and known as Michael) how he created (through the power of his Father YHWH or in English; Jehovah) and mentions the fountains in the deep part of the ocean which science only discovered late last century. Prophesies from the Christian Greek scriptures about the time of the end are also coming true.
barbhorses (5 years ago)
I think you are reading into what that actually says. To me, the person who wrote that is simply recognizing that to produce a child it requires sperm.
nicksum29 (6 years ago)
@ompenarnie She's an academic historian. Don't be so jealous
FlowerChild65 (6 years ago)
@HistoricRoyalPalaces Well who would have guessed after The Other Boleyn Girl and how she characterized poor Anne. It frightens me to think of her teaching anyone.
lifeinbath (6 years ago)
this is really helpful
Lornicopia (6 years ago)
I also imagine that the dissolution of this backup plan created a major crisis accompanied by personal emotional losses that contributed to his sense of insecurity for his legacy and for the future of his nation.His behavior certainly became more radical and desperate after this loss.
Lornicopia (6 years ago)
I have also considered Henry's relationship with his son FitzRoy to be a Catalyst in his almost panicked behavior towards producing a male heir.He seemed to be grooming him to be the spare in the event that he produced no legitimate male offspring.Making him the second most powerful man in England and nurturing a much closer relationship with him than any of the other children.Before his death henry was attempting to position him to be heir apparent.
tudorguy1509 (6 years ago)
Gregory is NOT an academic historian. Her doctorate is in literature. And she is a TERRIBLE writer. Hilary Mantel is a great writer (and her portrait of Henry in _Wolf Hall_ is the best evocation of the king yet written).
tudorguy1509 (6 years ago)
Gregory is NOT an academic historian. Her doctorate is in literature. And she is a TERRIBLE writer. Why isn't Hilary Mantel in this video? She is a great writer (and her portrait of Henry in _Wolf Hall_ is the best evocation of the king yet written).
CaitlinAeRee (6 years ago)
The sound is terrible!! It too low!!
cockspurVSOR (6 years ago)
Enjoyable discussions by the Historic Royal Palaces here. Came across this by accident but am glad I did. I will seek out other commentaries. I now love History and the story it weaves. Only wished I paid more attention at school. (Terrible teaching of the subject back then)
JohnPaul Dixon (6 years ago)
I guess all anyone needed to know back then was,if you pissed off the king,either get the f*ck outa dodge pdq,or run the risk of your head being seperated from the rest of you!
Alan Heath (7 years ago)
@71TattyTeddy I don't think he can have been very popular after around 1535 - the Pilgrimage of Grace was the largest popular uprising against an English monarch until the Civil War.
sawleo (7 years ago)
@squeakybauer I quite agree. The requirement to comment is a knowledge of. Indeed, beyond Philippa Gregory, there are lay people who study history and have a deep understanding and appreciation of historical figures. This notion of "experts" obscures and gives short shrift to the knowledge of others, unfortunately.
fleurgi (7 years ago)
fucked up parents make fucked up kids (excuse my french). no wonder elizabeth didn't want a husband her father killed most of his or treated them like shit. i would hate men too if that was my father. poor girl couldn't open up to men or trust them. i would diagonse him with maligent narcissm. he has total disregard for others and killed them if they ever pissed him off. crazy and failure as a father/ husband is right
Sadie228 (7 years ago)
It would take the greatest psychiatrist to figure out Henry VIII, lol. Interesting man for sure.
happybkwrm (7 years ago)
@lilythepink123 I can't believe her interpretation of Elizabeth I as a weak woman who was ruled by Cecil would be taken seriously.
happybkwrm (7 years ago)
@hop1pop I think it was more likely that she didn't want: A) a man taking over her reign, and B) risking her life with childbirth. She lost two stepmothers that way. She lost another stepmother to the ax. She watched her sister degrade herself with unrequited adoration for a husband who despised her. She saw Mary Stuart lose her throne because she married the wrong man for "love".
gmaureen (7 years ago)
Philipa Gregory sorta hit the nail on the head... selfish, self-centered, omnipotent and a product of his time.

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